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Post by Art Teach on Mar 7, 2015 10:12:51 GMT -6
Name Class Race AC HP Weapons
Captain Derrius Paladin- 3 Human 21 (plate and shield) 26 Shield and broadsword
Baron Jario Champion Fighter- 5 Human 16 (scale) 39 Greatsword
Lord Warden Battlemaster Fighter 7 Human 21 (plate and shield) 74 Bastard Sword
Rowan Mage 6/ Fighter 1 Human 16 (mage armor robe) 71 Flail-Staff
Red Fighter 4 Human 20 (plate male) 36 Battleaxe, javelins
Death Priests Cleric 6 Human?? 17 (Chain robes) 45 Mace
Captain Leia Fighter 3 Human 18 (chain and shield) 35 Shield and Broadsword
Pseudodragon Familliar dragon 13 7 Bite, sting
Initiative
Jario 23, Death Priest Dee 19, Death Priest Dumm 17, Roan 16, Hraken 14, Pseudodragon 13, Derrius 11, Leia 10, Lord Warden 8, Red 6,
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Post by Issarian Lockwood on Mar 7, 2015 11:46:08 GMT -6
...yeah, we're dead. Two 7th, two 6th, a 4th and a 3rd? Three combat capable casters, and our primary target's in plate and has 74 hp. Hey, Lord Warden, remember when I said I'd have taken a bribe? Still might!
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Post by Sithramir on Mar 7, 2015 16:47:37 GMT -6
Malik is taking someone down with him and taking their plate afterwards! Some yummy new armour is his new incentive! Can you clarify who's weapons are magic if they attack Malik so he knows if his DR works? I'll assume it does unless you note different.
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Post by blackarrow on Mar 9, 2015 14:48:24 GMT -6
Maybe we can play up the psychological angle on Red and Leia, break their resolve enough that they could yield early? With Red, we could probably play up the Nodwick thing, maybe even get him to "drop" after one or two hits.
The good news is that Rowan's missing his spell components, so that'll hopefully keep him from casting his nastiest spells, and the Death Priests are probably going to spend a lot of time raising the dead, so I can hopefully run interference on that in order to make them pretty useless too, or at least delay their usefulness. Honestly, it seems like the Lord Warden is the only person who's going to be both 100% committed and 100% effective.
Also, I wonder, does the Holy Avenger get its extra damage goodies if it strikes the Death Priests? I mean, they're at least vaguely undead-esque, right? I wouldn't blame the Avenger for confusing them with real undead and piling on the damage.
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Post by Issarian Lockwood on Mar 9, 2015 16:20:45 GMT -6
Yeah, I'll probably try an intimidate or a persuade on Red after a few hits. The Baron should probably focus on Leia; they've got the whole divided loyalty connection to work on. If Mal can keep the Warden focused on him and rock the damage front, I can throw some Sneak Attacks into the mix in a round or two, if I can get Red out of the way.
I don't think the Holy Avenger will have much additional effect on the deathpriests; far as I know, they're just regular humans with bad habits.
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Post by Sithramir on Mar 9, 2015 20:36:23 GMT -6
Priests can use spell focus so they might not lose anything or they might lose an round realizing they need to use the focus but the focus is pretty much the standard use with component backup
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Post by Art Teach on Mar 9, 2015 20:46:02 GMT -6
You don't need to defeat them all. If the Lord Warden yields he admits guilt.
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Post by Art Teach on Mar 9, 2015 20:47:29 GMT -6
No components will not hurt the death priest, but limits the Wizard greatly. Chetum also has his scrolls and potions and possibly pants. He rolled a 24 on his rob him blind check.
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Post by Issarian Lockwood on Mar 14, 2015 23:02:40 GMT -6
Hey, now that's cheating, that is!
Hmm. So, somebody healing him, or he's got an item with regen. If he's paralyzed, he can't be healing himself. Bet it's an item.
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Post by Art Teach on Mar 15, 2015 7:54:37 GMT -6
Red just pointed them out for you. He has guys in the crowd cheating. I can't believe anyone would do that.
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Post by Issarian Lockwood on Mar 15, 2015 13:38:54 GMT -6
I know, I'm shocked too.
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Post by Sithramir on Mar 15, 2015 14:30:41 GMT -6
I'm kind of lost on the whole mechanics of some things. To be blatantly honest it's kind of taking some fun out of it for me too. This was going to be an insane fight but a few things and it seems almost easy now.
1) Hraken was able to throw some guy really far with just one attack doing a lot of damage in the process. Seems a bit much (Malik has the same Str so he can basically do this as one attack one a good roll?) You can shove a creature but it was crazy. Just having the "NPC" doing it takes the shine away from us.
2) Hraken is able to then grab both priests and hold them down? Again not sure how this happens when he has one attack or how he could hold down two opponents in general. We're level 4. At level 5 he gets a second attack but it feels like he shouldn't be able to do both. Feel like this one level 4 guy is basically taking out a lvl 7 and two level 6's from our fight.
3) Magic user used a 5th level slot for 6 magic missiles? You'd need to be 9th or 11th level to have a 6th level slot? They were character level 6 or 7 meaning max 3rd level slot (no pure casters)
4) The clerics cast harm spell? That's also a 6th level spell requiring level 11. If they used a scroll or something its doable but it was confusing since their max level spell slots are 3rd. Either way Hraken is pretty hurt by the spell i assume but it's just a bit confusing.
I'm really liking it and loving all the other parts. Like it's really great so please understand i'm happy with this but I kind of got disappointed with some of the narrative ignoring the mechanics parts. Like I love they have grave diggers dropping skeletons and someone using scrolls to heal and "cheat" just like we have Blackarrow and Oloric trying to "cheat" and help. Very awesome fight. I like the other aspects of how one or two are sparring to try and not hurt each other while the others try to take down the Lord Warden. I guess I just wasn't liking Hraken dominating these powerful characters so easily.
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Post by Art Teach on Mar 15, 2015 21:33:43 GMT -6
Hraken has Gauntlet of Ogre Power that give him a 19 Str. He can toss a good sized rock like an Ogre so a person should be about the same. He tossed him into a nearby building with a good roll. He also gave BlackArrow a job instead of sitting watching the battle. It was more to give him purpose than take away from your purpose.
Hraken has 2 hands so a main and off hand attack to grapple. He just need a touch attack to grab them. He has not done them any damage just taken them away from casting. Hraken knows you need to defeat the Lord Warden not the rest. He will not hold them for long since they receive aid from each other to escape from his grapple.
His arcane roll was really good and he gained and extra attack to use cast again. He is upping his Magic Missle because he can't cast much more without components. Now he is is lacking components and verbal.
I described it as harming him but it was cause light wounds at 2nd level.(2d8 each) Sometimes to make it more narrative and less just throwing out the name of the spell I will write arcane bolt instead of magic missile, or describe that the place goes silent instead of saying he cast a silence spell. I will place the spell name in the notes after the description to avoid confusion.
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Post by Sithramir on Mar 16, 2015 4:51:29 GMT -6
Thanks again. Like I said I'm enjoying it but trying to understand those things.
So if Malik can grapple and hold 2 at a time, etc. I'd like to know what he would role.
And to throw people how? He doesn't need to first grapple per normal rules? Normally its an action to grapple with opposed checks then another action to move or throw.
There is no touch attack anymore...
Magic missile has no roll so how would he get extra missiles? There is a reason oloric chose spells knowing the bonus action rules. Magic missile wouldn't incur an attack of opportunity like a ranged chromatic orb would so if he can get that he might choose spells differently.
I ask because throwing someone 30' on the same round at level 4 is WAY cooler than just chopping with a sword so I want to be able to do these things
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Post by Art Teach on Mar 16, 2015 10:50:33 GMT -6
Not having a touch attack for spells and grabbing someone is silly. So house rules if you just need to touch them armor does not count but shields do. Touch rules are a good idea that should continue.
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